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Evil laughter when sacrificial engineer starts breaking down.

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Hi there

I wonder if someone could perhaps assist . I don't know how to search. I am asking if anyone could confirm if there is evil laughter in the back ground the sacrificial engineer starts to break down ??? If it has been discussed might someone perhaps post a link to that discussion as I don't know how to search. Thank you

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Engineer Statue by Sideshow Collectibles

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Engineer Statue by Sideshow Collectibles

Release: July 2014

Price: $399.99

Size: 22" (559mm)

Looks really great, but still a little off. For the price I'd probably want it to be perfect, but I'm still considering getting it. Does anyone know if you can cancel preorders at sideshow? If the pose was different and the proportions were a little better (smaller head or bulkier body) I would preorder without a second thought, but I'm a bit hesitant as-is.

What do you guys think? Also, I want to know if hot toys is ever gonna do an Engineer because I have no doubt that theirs would be better (and in-scale to other 1/6-scale figures).

Theories on why the Engineers want us Dead.

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So as I was geeking out after watching Prometheus, I wondered about the opening scene.  First I assume it was a salute to 2001, but also the beginning of life on earth.  The had all of the meaning mythology and analogy that Prometheus myth has.  A god sacrifices himself to create his children etc.  The obvious question after that was, if they went through the trouble of creating us, then why attempt to destroy us.  David answered the question during film in which he said, "sometimes, in order to create something, you must first destroy..."  The answer was generic, and obviously unsatisfying, so I began to think, and came up with 3 possibilities.

1.  The Engineers just have a God complex, and feel like its their right, being a species that is possibly millions of years older than us, or thousands, whatever... I feel like this is a cop out.  It didn't explain the visceral hate that the last engineer had for the humans in the scene when he killed Weyland.  Especially considering that after the ship crash his first instinct was to make sure that there were no survivors, instead of just going to another ship and taking off to complete his mission.

2.  If Ridley Scott doesn't mind the crossover created by the AVP series in the comics and film franchise then another possibility is that they engineered the Predators as well and didn't like the result.  They may waged a war against the Predators and not faired so well.  Instead of risking another event like that with humans, they opted for a first strike.  Its less of a cop out, but doesn't really stick with the themes of the film,  I could be wrong.

3.  I like this one the most.  The Engineers reaction to seeing humans was akin to a vampire hunter's view on Vampires.  It had a strong tinge of religious zeal.  He attacked without mercy or hesitation.  This is purely conjecture, but what if in the Engineers world view so religious prophet foretold of the the destruction of their world at the hands of humans.  IT sort of lines up with the fact that Shaw and David are paying them a visit in a ship full of plague.  The whole story is a Frankenstein analogy, but it would be poetic if Shaw destroyed them with their own weapon. 

Anyway, I guess we'll see.  I really enjoyed the movie

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The floating dusty material when you see the Ghost Engineers running.

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I just realised it reminded me of the way the Engineer at the beginning disolves into the air and begins to turn into dusty 'pollen'. First I thought that what you saw in the holograms were what was still in the air when they lit up, but now I'm thinking it possibly was what was recorded at the time of the outbreak. The film shows Shaw watching the recording and 'wonders if there was an outbreak' showing a clip of the dust and the door closing. Could the floaty stuff in the hologram be the result of an Engineer taking the cadbury crunchie bar juice you see at the beginning of the film? Or was it just a cool 3D effect?

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So did David know what he was doing all along?

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The first engineer drinks from his cup at the waterfall and he breaks down into a catalyst of sorts, to kickstart life.

When David gives Holloway the contaminated drink, do you think it was with the knowledge that it would cause his body to break down into a human derived catalyst that could be used for Weyland's own ends? When Holloway collapses in the pyramid, the veins forming across his face look very similar to those that formed on the first engineer's body, and his skin was taking on the blackened, almost crystalline, appearance that the first engineer's did.

If that was the case, and David had somehow surmised that this would happen to Holloway, was cuddles merely an unintended consequence?

Alien Origins

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Feel free to critique this presentation on the origins of the xenomorph. Note the original design was created by Meshuggah, and key additions provided by Doomtrain (with additional features confirmation from MadEye).

See the Direct Prometheus-Alien Connection thread for its original synthesis, along with the original worm theory.
 

Prometheus Fan Art

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the axe scene from Prometheus sucked (what was better)

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So what is better from an action perspective, a cinematography perspective, a symbolic perspective?

I'll fill this thread with examples! Feel free to join in.

What is better in terms of axes?

Axe murder from American Horror Story, season 2; axe kill from Friday the 13th, part 1; any part of Hatchet 1 and 2; golf-club axe-swing to the brain from You're Next; Jack's axe in the Shining.

What's better from a symbolic perspective?

Action scenes usually don't have a lot of symbolism. In fact, visual metaphors are typically restricted to art house films, which usually don't contain a large amount of action. Hero is one example, and it plays out kind of like a folktale. Still, you can have morals behind the violence, and nobody does that better than Shakespeare. However, in horror films, a good director with a lot of symbolism is Cronenberg. Even with his more down-to-earth stuff, there's meaning behind the action. In Prometheus, it's Shaw killing her false idol with an axe, except it feels so vapid that the Engineer might as well be some guy off the street. Another good movie with morals and meaning to the action is Seven Samurai. That movie blows Prometheus out of the water and then chops its head off.

What's better from an action perspective?

Terminator 2 future war scene. So much better, it's not funny. First gunfight in Predator. Hospital shoot-out from Hard Boiled. Battle at the mounds from Conan. Fight between Riggs and Joshua at the end of Lethal Weapon 1. Braveheart battle scenes. Final battle from Saving Private Ryan. The truck chase scene from License to Kill. The chase scene in the Road Warrior. Anything from Casino Royale. Ghost-hacked shooter shootout from Ghost in the Shell. Final training scene from La Femme Nikita. Hotel shootout from The Fifth Element. Final shootout from The Wild Bunch. Final duel in Rob Roy. First duel in The Duelists.



From a cinematography perspective?

Raging Bull taking apart the pretty boy's face. Skyfall. Near Dark's night photography (all of it). No Country For Old Men. Hall of mirrors scene from Enter the Dragon. The Crow, in general. Heavenly Creatures. Hero.

In terms of suspense?

Das Boot depth charge scenes. John McClane's survival attempts in the first half or so of Die Hard. Rear Window. A Simple Plan. Halloween. Russian roulette scene from The Deer Hunter. Forbidden Planet's invisible monster. Tech-Noir scene from the Terminator.


Prometheus reactions, showing it to people

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Have you seen Prometheus with anyone? Dragging someone along who was not already a fan, ect..
weather in the theater or at home?

What responses did they have with you? What did they think?

Want A Milburn Hoodie?...

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With the magic of the interwebs, I was able to find Milburn's hoodie.

Now in the film, he wears a custom made hoodie, but I found something very close to it.

It's called a Snood. Normally just a scarf for women, there are some snood sweaters for men, but the hood doesn't seem to be as open around the neck as Milburn's but I'm sure some stretching or sewing will fix that problem.

Also, the color is different in this one, but hey it better than nothing :)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mens-Fashion-Tokyo-Laundry-Snood-Cow-Neck-Jumper-Charcoal-/180833250944?pt=UK_Men_s_Jumpers_Cardigans&var=&hash=item2a1a806e80#ht_1811wt_780

BUT!!! If you must be a perfectionist... I suppose buying a White snood scarf and sewing it onto the neck hole of a white long sleeve sweater would suffice.

Lucky for the Brits, they are sold, on eBay, in the UK... Not so lucky for us Americans...

Happy hunting.

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What is the significance of the green crystal in front of the mural?

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Ideas?

Could be: secreted by the xenomorph, pleases xenomorph, controls xenomorph.

What else?

Black goo! Solved!....(spoilers)

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Yeah, it's me again, with another "hopefully" polemic discussion! :) 
So what do we know? Engineer + black goo = steering the whole course of evolution of earth, into us. Right? the engineers DNA and evolving it into us. 

So in LV-223 it's breaking worm DNA and making  the Hammerpede right? ... WRONG! 

Take a look at the substance david removes from the urn. Isn't it awfully similar to an Alien egg? Could it be that it's Broken down Alien DNA + Black goo. And if that is the case, Urn + worm does not equal better worm, it means the biological path to a facehugger. 

Urn + worm = Worm like facehugger

Urn + sperm = Sperm like facehugger

Urn + Fiffield = Fiffield like Facehugger or xenomorph  (take a look at his movement, all weird and confusing, like a crab trying to walk like a human) 

Why is it building facehuggers? because it's the first biological step to make a full grown xenomorph. 

Engineer + goo makes us
Alien DNA + Goo makes them (and it achieves it in the end of the movie)

Just my theory though, feel free to share your thoughst. 





 

Question about the beginning of Prometheus [Spoiler]

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Hey, I'm new here and saw Prometheus at the Belfast midnight screening on Thursday.

There are so many questions about this movie that are unanswered, but one in particular is bugging me. At the start of the film we see an Engineer presumably sacrificing himself to begin the human race by drinking the black stuff that later plagues the characters in the movie. However, when the characters Fifield and Holloway encounter the black stuff, Fifield burns and later mutates, whilst Holloway goes through a similar transformation.

This brings me to my question, because we find out that the Engineers shared virtually the same genetic make up as the humans, why does the Engineer disintegrate and die within minutes of drinking the black stuff, yet Holloway mutates about 24 hours after drinking the spiked alcohol David gives him?

Any ideas/theories or pointing out something I've missed here would be very appreciated.

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