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Deacon is his name...

February 23, 2013, 4:26 pm
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Prometheus Fan Art

January 14, 2012, 4:48 pm
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What happened to Holloways Corpse ?

April 6, 2013, 2:13 pm
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Was Milburn Gay ?

April 6, 2013, 2:07 pm
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Juggernaut docking bay (Michael Havart)

April 6, 2013, 3:15 pm
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I wish the Ultramorph made it

April 8, 2013, 7:06 am
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Anybody other than Me wish the Ultramorph/Jockey-Xenomorph would have made the final film instead of the Deacon? just looking at it makes Me go wow, the possibilities. I wonder if there is a chance it will be in Prometheus 2 provided that there will be a sequel ( I Hope there will be a sequel)?

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The Saucer Ship

April 8, 2013, 6:47 am
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I was just think'in, I wonder what the inside of the Saucer Ship looked like and what the on goings are within it. I personally think it looks like the Juggernaut ship only more advance with tech. I think the elders are constantly in a meeting of sorts. I could be way wrong however, what do you all think?

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The fail-safe method.

April 7, 2013, 1:22 pm
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i have not posted a thread in a while and thought it was maybe about time........

I was having a little think last night , regarding certain comments made by the robot named ash in the 1979 movie '' Alien ''.
He mentions the creature replaces its own cells with elements out of the atmosphere, silica i think .
as i understand it,  this process is also responsible for lifeforms becoming fossilized and hard like rock ( space-jockey anybody? )

As to what i was wondering , and i know that the creatures in Alien are not exactly the same as what we see in Prometheus , but the planets conditions regarding certain storms that contain large amounts of silica are the same . i wonder if the silica thing is a failsafe . 

I wonder if the jockey on lv426 landed on that moon knowing about its silica storm , if any of his cargo escaped the ship it would eventually become hard and petrified from the constant storm hitting  it.  

And then i thought about the storm conditions on lv223 and how it might make sense to be making these monsters in a lab that is constantly battered by the same kind of storm , an awesome fail-safe in case of an outbreak in the Engineers dome structures.
Any little beasties that get out will soak up the silica from the storm and become fossilized .


anybody have any thoughts on this ?



[xenomoorf]


Edit: maybe even the dome itself was once an organic lifeform , we see its skull ??? 
Becoming hard and petrified from the constant battering of a massive silica storm.
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The Engineer and Trilobite Battle

April 8, 2013, 9:09 am
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I was just watching the movie. For a while I was thinking about then seeing the scene reminded Me of it more.

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It might be a stupid question and I ain't sure if this has been asked before but I wonder for the very brief moment did the Engineer know what the Trilobite was or was he completely shocked at a new monster and that of course he had to fight for his life?

Also, I wonder if the scenario had been different and both aliens were aware of each other and fought in a stand off, would the adult Trilobite still win or would the Engineer actually have a chance at winning? I would imagine the Trilobite would still defeat him.
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I have 2 Questions- Origins of the Xenomorph?

April 8, 2013, 12:36 pm
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So here are my two questions: 1. In the movie Prometheus, is the Deacon the original origin of the xenomorphs? and 2nd question: If so, how did the Deacon get all the way to LV 426? I've seen posts all over the internet about this..
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Spoilers...Did Vickers actually.....

June 5, 2012, 2:12 pm
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I watched the film for the second time yesterday and i enjoyed it more than the first time i have to say. One thing that really annoyed me (and still does) is the death of Vickers. I simply CAN NOT believe that somebody wrote a script that said 'Vickers will make it out of Prometheus before it crashes, only to be then squashed by the giant Space Jockey ship. If a good character has to die then at least give them a good death...and Vickers was a good character and she didnt deserve that.

 

My question to those who have seen the film is, do you think they purposefully might have left the door open for Charlize Theron to return in the sequel? After all, we didnt actually see her death fully. Also, i remember Ridley Scott saying there may have been two robots on board Prometheus, although this is entirely unlikely what with her having sex with Janek and also calling Weyland her 'father'.

 

What do you guys think? are they leaving the door open or is it just bad writing?

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Do we agree that the Prometheus Engineers back-engineer'd their Space Trucker technology?

April 11, 2013, 2:03 am
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due to the obvious design differences between the Alien (Space Trucker) and the Prometheus (Space Jockey) giant penis command module, do we now agree that the Prometheus Enigneers back-engineered 'something they found, stole or traded for' to suit their own (smaller) size/requirements?

Or is Prometheus just an Alien Reboot, after all; same basic story, different sets. Pinnochio-like android included.
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UGM or Universal Giger Matter.

April 11, 2013, 5:17 am
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I'm 'not that happy' with Prometheus (for a variety of reasons) but that's my cross to bear, no one else's. And this thread might be more suited in the Alien forum, but I'll drop it here (mods do what you like with it) . This lingering question might be worth opening a thread topic on, "Are the Egg+Facehugger, the Derelict and the Xeno made of the same stuff?"

It goes back to a thread about what's the best effects-wise Alien in the series... for me, it'll always be the original Alien as it seemed to be made of PEWTER or some other sort of dull living metallic extrusion.

But then if that's so, so is the other stuff in the Alien World.

In fact, even the Prologue Saucer at the start of Prometheus. They're all made of this UGM or Universal Giger Matter, right?
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LV-223, Military Installation Or Engineer Prison Planet?

April 11, 2013, 3:05 am
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It occurred to me yesterday, perhaps the "Temples" on  LV-223 weren't temples at all. I'm working with the theory that there are indeed 2 separate factions of engineers (a theory that's been discussed elsewhere on the forum). 

These separate factions may have been at war over beliefs, or other religious matters. Perhaps the installations on LV-223 were used by one faction to imprison the other and test out new Bioweapons on them as a kind of torture. Including the xeno.

This kinda explains the holograms of the running engineers, the pile up of bodies behind a closed door and the reason the one engineer got decapitated ( the "guards" shut him out so the xenos would get him). My theory suggests that the dead engineers we see in the corridors aren't the xeno's creators, but the members of the second faction that were imprisoned and experimented on.

This would also tie in with the idea of a prison planet from alien3.

just a theory...kinda plausible 

what do you guys think?


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Why is Vickers woke up first ?

April 11, 2013, 1:58 pm
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the original Prometheus question... SPACE JOCKEY

October 24, 2012, 11:39 pm
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for me, and Ridley (it was mentioned at the time), the reason for making Prometheus was to explain that original SPACE JOCKEY (you know, that one that Giger designed and everyone forgot to ask him about),

To be quite frank, I was expecting something BIOMECHANICAL like this; space worm:


Scene 1: deep space. This off-white space worm pull and stretches itself through space using its own spasming centre of gravity.

Scene 2: track to a view INSIDE this worm. We see platelet-like 'red blood cells' and tendrily 'white blood cells', close in one one of them. We see that this red blood cell has a black iris in the middle of it, a sphincter of black goo. The outer casing of the cell splits, the 'doughnut' shearing into two crescents, each containing a percentage of this black goo. The white blood cells in the worm recognise this act and attacks. One white blood cell sinks half its tendrils into one crescent. Another white blood cell digs half of its tendrils into the other.

Scene 3: the upper crescent (with its tendrily attacker sticking out of the top of it) straightens out, becoming the turret. This straightened out turret rolls over so that its attached tendrils reach forward and grip the lower crescent; the upper tube pulls the lower crescent towards it. The surface starts to undulate as the elephantine Space Jockey begins to be defined, spawned by the black goo within. The turret also begins to be defined.

Scene 4: The proto-Space Jockey embeds itself into the inside wall of the wormlike thing, those tendrils that remain free align themselves along the side of the Space Jockey. As the detail of the Space Jockey resolves, the inner surface of the worm starts to change also, taking on the familiar Giger-ribs look. The remaining 'blood cells' pop into a green sparkly soup, filling the void.

Scene 5: external view of the worm as its surface changes from off-white to giger-ised embossed, curving and swelling into the classic derelict shape. A shadow looms across it from the Engineer UFO. Space Jockey ORRERY rings pour out of the derelict, actually further out than the map rings in Prometheus and, when they disappear, it takes the whole derelict-Juggernaut with it - transdimensionally.

Notice that on the THE EVOLUTION box art I used to illustrate this sphincter-ish meander, they've white-washed the original (elephantine) Space Jockey over whatever it became in Prometheus, some back-engineered suit for a stunted giant. I wanted to see how THE ORIGINAL space jockey came about. I wanted to see why the EGG CARGO. Alas, and alak.

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Regarding The Attack On The Juggernaut

April 13, 2013, 1:50 pm
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Shaw mentions that there must have been an "outbreak" on the ship, based on knowledge gathered and those visual, green recordings we saw of the Engineers.

I'm thinking the outbreak was of the xenomorph/deacon/whatever-else-we-haven't-seen variety. Here's why:

1) When the first recording gets played by David activating a panel while first exploring the Juggernaut, a shriek can be heard that sounds nearly identical to the Deacon's shriek heard at the end of the film.

2) While bumbling around like idiots, Millburn and Fifield discover the pile of bodies. Millburn mentions how at least one of the Engineers' suits is burst open from the inside.

3) This photo of the "pilot room" where 3 Engineers are dead, and the one is still alive in stasis. The Engineer's body is clearly burst open, along with the "glass/plastic" being burst open.
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Possibly more evidence laying around.

Thoughts?
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Why is there so much CO2 on 223?

April 15, 2013, 8:07 am
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LV-223 is pretty close to an earth analog, a little colder perhaps, a little less argon and a lot more CO2 (and yes it's a moon). Inside the structures, the air is tailored to humans and presumably engineers.   By the inception of the events in the movie, humanity is transforming worlds to better suit them.  Given the long period of alien visitations to earth, the engineers spent a substantial amount of time inhabiting 223.  Why didn't they do what Weyland Corp does as a buisiness enterprise?  Did they sacrifice a breathable atmosphere in exchange for keeping the moon tolerably warm?  Was it really such a backwater that it wasn't worth the investment, even with their more efficacious technology, and if so why the aeons long advertising campaign?  Did things revert to a prior state after the engineers died/went dormant? The survivor engineer manages to exert himself on the surface without a suit, so perhaps they can tolerate a larger fraction of CO2 for a longer period of time, but the temple suggests they prefer our gas mix.  Why is 223 so earth-like yet not quite ...finished?
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WHO OWNS THE ALIEN CANON? and why?

April 16, 2013, 5:12 am
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Interesting.

April 18, 2013, 6:29 am
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I remember making this post a year ago:

http://www.prometheusforum.net/discussion/813/im-the-only-one-that-thinks-this-looks-like-your-standard-b-movie-/p1

Before the movie came out and I got absolutely slammed for it, perhaps I was asking for it because I came across as a condescending prick. But, this condescending prick turned out to be dead right. It was full of plot holes, inconsistencies due to a
lousy script, stupid characters, and ended up becoming a below average movie. I'm sure all of this has been beaten to death on many forums around the Internet. Anyway, I take my leave. Take this however you want or don't take it at all.
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