i put a lot of time into this thread , a lot of research and is not just some wild theory i have pulled out of thin air .
quite a few members of this forum have touched upon the ideas and in a funny way have been 100% correct in their theories and contributions as all the little details in the movie are made from a unified comparative study on religion , mythology , human history and were we are now and were we are headed as a species , different members have picked up on each comparative and thought it was the entire explanation , when really its just a small part of the bigger picture , each tiny piece of the movie tells the small part of a bigger picture , reflected in the source material it draws inspiration from
i noticed that in the movie the technique used to identify and find the engineers are results of comparative studies , weyland uses them and one of his parents was a professor in the subject , Holloway and Shaw used comparative studies to determine the origins of the star maps .
david uses a comparative language study to determine the language of the engineers , studying them to their sources .
i decided to apply this same logic to the movie , finding similarities in the story and finding the equivalents in history and mythology - greek , roman , egyptian , mayan , christan , gnostic , hebrew .
then understanding that within the realms of the movie that those stories share an origin that is told to us by those that come very far from earth and was told to us at various times in our development from a number of different representitives of departments that share a similar agenda but also have their own thoughts on the matter . similar stories told from different perspectives .
so i figured that if all these stories and comparatives share themes and obvious connections , maybe i could strip away all the fat and see what story the similarities present when studied in comparative terms with what we are shown in the movie .
after all the comparisons i will present a unified theory that i am pretty sure is THE answer
sorry for the long read but it was a LOT of information to dig through and compile into a digestible thread over the last week or so
HOPEFULLY somebody enjoys the conclusion as a satisfactory answer .
please enjoy :)
Engineers - titans - olympians - vishnu - large body of small groups representing at least 10 different factions ( faces of vishnu , khrishna
quite a few members of this forum have touched upon the ideas and in a funny way have been 100% correct in their theories and contributions as all the little details in the movie are made from a unified comparative study on religion , mythology , human history and were we are now and were we are headed as a species , different members have picked up on each comparative and thought it was the entire explanation , when really its just a small part of the bigger picture , each tiny piece of the movie tells the small part of a bigger picture , reflected in the source material it draws inspiration from
i noticed that in the movie the technique used to identify and find the engineers are results of comparative studies , weyland uses them and one of his parents was a professor in the subject , Holloway and Shaw used comparative studies to determine the origins of the star maps .
david uses a comparative language study to determine the language of the engineers , studying them to their sources .
i decided to apply this same logic to the movie , finding similarities in the story and finding the equivalents in history and mythology - greek , roman , egyptian , mayan , christan , gnostic , hebrew .
then understanding that within the realms of the movie that those stories share an origin that is told to us by those that come very far from earth and was told to us at various times in our development from a number of different representitives of departments that share a similar agenda but also have their own thoughts on the matter . similar stories told from different perspectives .
so i figured that if all these stories and comparatives share themes and obvious connections , maybe i could strip away all the fat and see what story the similarities present when studied in comparative terms with what we are shown in the movie .
after all the comparisons i will present a unified theory that i am pretty sure is THE answer
sorry for the long read but it was a LOT of information to dig through and compile into a digestible thread over the last week or so
HOPEFULLY somebody enjoys the conclusion as a satisfactory answer .
please enjoy :)
Engineers - titans - olympians - vishnu - large body of small groups representing at least 10 different factions ( faces of vishnu , khrishna
being the blue faced ones who play the flute and are associated with the juggernaut ) , each group is responsible for a different aspect of the creation and evolution of the perfect lifeform ( Ubermensch ) , master race .
each generation or the leader and followers of each generation is willfully sacrificed at the end of his reign and his remains are used ( the torch is passed ) to further the development of the next generation , a process that exhausted their ranks , lucifer and prometheus are both providing the lasts of those sacrifices , leaving only death ( thanatos/samael ) to finish the process .
lv223 - Tartarus - concentration camp used by the engineers during their very long campaign , bringing here a very long list of mythological and fantastical lifeforms , some primordial and some whose DNA contained the secrets of the universe
experimented on and pharmed for genetic traits in the creation of both weapons , space craft and all other kinds of tech that would bring them closer to perfection
leading to the creation of the perfect organism = pathway to god and stairway to heaven .
these experiments would be ran in survivor mazes (electric ave's xibalba ) that ran around the outskirts of the main area of the structures/concentration camp .
the host subjects would be lured in under false pretenses , entering a maze that cannot be solved or escaped from , with systems in place to record and collect data ( the holograms ) , the experiments would then be collected by the engineers .
when Milburn and Fifield find the giant pile of gigantic dead bodies , fifield mentions it reminds him of a holocaust painting .
when the victims of Auschwitz were lured into the gas chambers it was under false pretenses and when the doors would be opened there would be a huge pile because all of the poor people inside would be climbing on top of each other , fighting for the air at the top .
the huge pile of engineers are in the very same predicament , climbing on top of each other , fighting to escape what is in the ground , the same thing responsible for all of the holes in their corpses and the skin that milburn and fifield .
urn room - a museum of relics that this particular group of engineers have aquired through the various sacrifices made by past leaders , all in the name of the creation of the master race
green gem - aquired by the fall - sacrifice of lucifer - secrets of alchemy
giant head - engineers - creators and rulers of the master race ( not humans ) which is contained in the urns , a gods son ( result of sacrifice ) sacrificed and whose blood will redeem man for all of his sins ( imperfections )
the paintings on the ceiling are the various creatures of mythology that were subdued by zeus ( current face of vishnu or leader of this department ) ( prometheus being his sacrifice engineer in the creation of man )
only those that do not believe in god make idols of themselves , they seek to make gods of themselves with others at their feet .
mural creature - cult image of Armageddon -- transformation -- and rebirth into perfection through the application of their perfect creation + the human race .
at the heart of the nazi agenda was the intended goal of the creation of the ubermensch ( master race ) through the destruction of the Untermensch ( sub human )
the experiments at tartarus/ Auschwitz had many departments all unifying in the collective agenda of the creation of the master race.
using britain as a breeding colony , the men were to be killed and the women used as breeding vessels , experiments at the camp at Auschwitz also consisted of perfecting the twin gene to increase production rate of the re population of the master race
focusing also on controlling aesthetic traits and removing imperfections
the mural creature is lilith/campe ( described as half woman/ half dragon with a scorpion tail and snakes ( nagas ) at her feet ) from mythology , using various genetic experiments that involved the the gods/engineers ( sacrificing themselves ) becoming one with these lifeforms they created the mother of all monsters who was capable of creating a hundred offspring a day , the engineers ( gods ) would steal her children and use them to keep her under control , when the engineers ( Areal/thanatos/death - last remaining ) joined with lilith they created a a blind serpent ( named Taniniver ) a blind prince and spiritual serpent .
leading to the creation of an army that the new prince would rule for ever
(comparative with the story oz zeus birthing athena , goddess of both war and wisdom , and decreeing her have rule over all intelligent life )
this is written about the creation that spawned from that union
'' if he were to be created whole in the fullness of his emenation he would have destroyed the world in an instant ''
this is written about liliths house
'' her gates are the gates of death , she sets out towards sheol and none of those that enter there will ever return and all who possess her will enter the into the pit .
campe was the guardian of tartarus
campe is comparative with both echidna and lilith and all threes children are used in the guarding of sacred relics and treasures
children included and associated are the nagas
nagas - cobra like serpents that carried a vile poison , great prowess and excessive strength , ever bent on biting everything that moved .
associated with water and they also contained the elixer of immortality
nagas are also genereally associated as guardians of treasure
they can also take human form ( as wee see in Alien )
i figured that as much as birthing a virus that is designed to remove any genetic imperfections through a mystical creature that has acid for blood in order to harvest its mythological elixer of immortality sounded , i had to check it out for myself and i found this
Planarian worms have amazed scientists with their apparently limitless
ability to regenerate. Researchers have been studying their ability to
replace aged or damaged tissues and cells in a bid to understand the
mechanisms underlying their longevity.
The discovery, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, is part of a project funded by the Biotechnology and Biological Sciences Research Council (BBSRC) and Medical Research Council (MRC) and may shed light on the possibilities of alleviating ageing and age-related characteristics in human cells
urns - combined dna of the last of the engineer race , mixed with the dna of the results of their experiments and shipped up to be passed on to us via a virus that would rebirth the engineer race as perfect beings , immortal and rulers of paradise .
we were just to be used as incubators , the Alien dna removes any imperfections and creates a perfect organism .
conclusive theory
the engineers are the equivalent of the nazi agenda on a universal scale
soulless scientists and fanatics of perfection
lv223 is their Auschwitz and they had many departments all dedicated to the creation of the master race ( perfect organism )
running experiments that were intended to reveal the secrets of evolution so they could cheat it and control it
bringing lifeforms they deemed worthy to the prison and running many depraved experiments in order to master the secrets of the creatures dna and harvest it for themselves creating technologies and relics that would aid the entire race of engineers towards the greater good , they enslaved the perfect lifeform and used her eggs to create an army of death and also to guard their most powerfull relics and knowledge
the outer tunnels are used to run experiments and collect data , the results of those experiments and the amount of engineers that sacrificed themselves for its evolution over a VAST period of time is contained in the urns , when it came time for the destroyers( death - the last ) to deliver the final batch to earth , something happened that leads to the outbreak that finished of the last of them .
in greek mythology there is a story about a human tricking thanatos/greek titan of death/the deliverer of ultimate destruction, into his own shackles and preventing the demise of mortals on earth .
there is also the story of the twins from south america , being taken to the home of the gods and tricking them .
weyland knows they are at the home of the death gods , the guardians of immortality and he knows those secrets are guarded by serpents and dragons , children of the great mother and guardians of the vineyard and that sacrifices must be made in order to obtain those secrets .
he also brings a tribute/ shaw and a champion / david / image of human perfection according to the lore of ubermensch ( he just does not realise that when it was written that we would create the ubermensch it was meant that we would be used in its creation - man is but a bridge -
weyland is a megalomaniac with no religious or spiritual beliefs ( chains ) holding him back , a man of science who spends his life trying to become god , he realises that our creators hold those secrets and we must get them at whatever cost .
it would seem that part of our genetic makeup produces megalomaniacs who believe themselves destined to unite mankind as one race , taking us towards a better future with them at the top , leading us all the way .
weyland is a megalomaniac who shares the same ideals as the nazis , messing with human DNA to eradicate imperfections
even the creation of the perfect human , souless david who will partake in any level of deprevety for the greater good ( weylands agenda )
like the generals of Auschwitz , david oversees the very thing that the nazis were trying to accomplish , the birth of the ubermesch .
nazi agenda in a nutshell
extermination of untermensch ( subhuman )
creation and repopulation of master race ( ubermensch )
using britain as a breeding colony , killing the males and turning the women into breeding cows
applying the knowledge attained at Auschwitz to create that breed of master race .
sound familiar ?
thoughts ???
:-B
each generation or the leader and followers of each generation is willfully sacrificed at the end of his reign and his remains are used ( the torch is passed ) to further the development of the next generation , a process that exhausted their ranks , lucifer and prometheus are both providing the lasts of those sacrifices , leaving only death ( thanatos/samael ) to finish the process .
lv223 - Tartarus - concentration camp used by the engineers during their very long campaign , bringing here a very long list of mythological and fantastical lifeforms , some primordial and some whose DNA contained the secrets of the universe
experimented on and pharmed for genetic traits in the creation of both weapons , space craft and all other kinds of tech that would bring them closer to perfection
leading to the creation of the perfect organism = pathway to god and stairway to heaven .
these experiments would be ran in survivor mazes (electric ave's xibalba ) that ran around the outskirts of the main area of the structures/concentration camp .
the host subjects would be lured in under false pretenses , entering a maze that cannot be solved or escaped from , with systems in place to record and collect data ( the holograms ) , the experiments would then be collected by the engineers .
when Milburn and Fifield find the giant pile of gigantic dead bodies , fifield mentions it reminds him of a holocaust painting .
when the victims of Auschwitz were lured into the gas chambers it was under false pretenses and when the doors would be opened there would be a huge pile because all of the poor people inside would be climbing on top of each other , fighting for the air at the top .
the huge pile of engineers are in the very same predicament , climbing on top of each other , fighting to escape what is in the ground , the same thing responsible for all of the holes in their corpses and the skin that milburn and fifield .
urn room - a museum of relics that this particular group of engineers have aquired through the various sacrifices made by past leaders , all in the name of the creation of the master race
green gem - aquired by the fall - sacrifice of lucifer - secrets of alchemy
giant head - engineers - creators and rulers of the master race ( not humans ) which is contained in the urns , a gods son ( result of sacrifice ) sacrificed and whose blood will redeem man for all of his sins ( imperfections )
the paintings on the ceiling are the various creatures of mythology that were subdued by zeus ( current face of vishnu or leader of this department ) ( prometheus being his sacrifice engineer in the creation of man )
only those that do not believe in god make idols of themselves , they seek to make gods of themselves with others at their feet .
mural creature - cult image of Armageddon -- transformation -- and rebirth into perfection through the application of their perfect creation + the human race .
at the heart of the nazi agenda was the intended goal of the creation of the ubermensch ( master race ) through the destruction of the Untermensch ( sub human )
the experiments at tartarus/ Auschwitz had many departments all unifying in the collective agenda of the creation of the master race.
using britain as a breeding colony , the men were to be killed and the women used as breeding vessels , experiments at the camp at Auschwitz also consisted of perfecting the twin gene to increase production rate of the re population of the master race
focusing also on controlling aesthetic traits and removing imperfections
the mural creature is lilith/campe ( described as half woman/ half dragon with a scorpion tail and snakes ( nagas ) at her feet ) from mythology , using various genetic experiments that involved the the gods/engineers ( sacrificing themselves ) becoming one with these lifeforms they created the mother of all monsters who was capable of creating a hundred offspring a day , the engineers ( gods ) would steal her children and use them to keep her under control , when the engineers ( Areal/thanatos/death - last remaining ) joined with lilith they created a a blind serpent ( named Taniniver ) a blind prince and spiritual serpent .
leading to the creation of an army that the new prince would rule for ever
(comparative with the story oz zeus birthing athena , goddess of both war and wisdom , and decreeing her have rule over all intelligent life )
this is written about the creation that spawned from that union
'' if he were to be created whole in the fullness of his emenation he would have destroyed the world in an instant ''
this is written about liliths house
'' her gates are the gates of death , she sets out towards sheol and none of those that enter there will ever return and all who possess her will enter the into the pit .
campe was the guardian of tartarus
campe is comparative with both echidna and lilith and all threes children are used in the guarding of sacred relics and treasures
children included and associated are the nagas
nagas - cobra like serpents that carried a vile poison , great prowess and excessive strength , ever bent on biting everything that moved .
associated with water and they also contained the elixer of immortality
nagas are also genereally associated as guardians of treasure
they can also take human form ( as wee see in Alien )
i figured that as much as birthing a virus that is designed to remove any genetic imperfections through a mystical creature that has acid for blood in order to harvest its mythological elixer of immortality sounded , i had to check it out for myself and i found this
Planarian worms have amazed scientists with their apparently limitless
ability to regenerate. Researchers have been studying their ability to
replace aged or damaged tissues and cells in a bid to understand the
mechanisms underlying their longevity.
The discovery, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, is part of a project funded by the Biotechnology and Biological Sciences Research Council (BBSRC) and Medical Research Council (MRC) and may shed light on the possibilities of alleviating ageing and age-related characteristics in human cells
urns - combined dna of the last of the engineer race , mixed with the dna of the results of their experiments and shipped up to be passed on to us via a virus that would rebirth the engineer race as perfect beings , immortal and rulers of paradise .
we were just to be used as incubators , the Alien dna removes any imperfections and creates a perfect organism .
conclusive theory
the engineers are the equivalent of the nazi agenda on a universal scale
soulless scientists and fanatics of perfection
lv223 is their Auschwitz and they had many departments all dedicated to the creation of the master race ( perfect organism )
running experiments that were intended to reveal the secrets of evolution so they could cheat it and control it
bringing lifeforms they deemed worthy to the prison and running many depraved experiments in order to master the secrets of the creatures dna and harvest it for themselves creating technologies and relics that would aid the entire race of engineers towards the greater good , they enslaved the perfect lifeform and used her eggs to create an army of death and also to guard their most powerfull relics and knowledge
the outer tunnels are used to run experiments and collect data , the results of those experiments and the amount of engineers that sacrificed themselves for its evolution over a VAST period of time is contained in the urns , when it came time for the destroyers( death - the last ) to deliver the final batch to earth , something happened that leads to the outbreak that finished of the last of them .
in greek mythology there is a story about a human tricking thanatos/greek titan of death/the deliverer of ultimate destruction, into his own shackles and preventing the demise of mortals on earth .
there is also the story of the twins from south america , being taken to the home of the gods and tricking them .
weyland knows they are at the home of the death gods , the guardians of immortality and he knows those secrets are guarded by serpents and dragons , children of the great mother and guardians of the vineyard and that sacrifices must be made in order to obtain those secrets .
he also brings a tribute/ shaw and a champion / david / image of human perfection according to the lore of ubermensch ( he just does not realise that when it was written that we would create the ubermensch it was meant that we would be used in its creation - man is but a bridge -
weyland is a megalomaniac with no religious or spiritual beliefs ( chains ) holding him back , a man of science who spends his life trying to become god , he realises that our creators hold those secrets and we must get them at whatever cost .
it would seem that part of our genetic makeup produces megalomaniacs who believe themselves destined to unite mankind as one race , taking us towards a better future with them at the top , leading us all the way .
weyland is a megalomaniac who shares the same ideals as the nazis , messing with human DNA to eradicate imperfections
even the creation of the perfect human , souless david who will partake in any level of deprevety for the greater good ( weylands agenda )
like the generals of Auschwitz , david oversees the very thing that the nazis were trying to accomplish , the birth of the ubermesch .
nazi agenda in a nutshell
extermination of untermensch ( subhuman )
creation and repopulation of master race ( ubermensch )
using britain as a breeding colony , killing the males and turning the women into breeding cows
applying the knowledge attained at Auschwitz to create that breed of master race .
sound familiar ?
thoughts ???
:-B